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Wind turbine burns near Garner
ARIAN SCHUESSLER/The Globe Gazette A turbine on a FPL wind generator caught fire on Wednesday morning near Garner.
GARNER — A wind turbine south of Garner burned Wednesday morning causing two of the blades to fall off.

The incident was reported  shortly after 8 a.m., a Hancock County Sheriff’s dispatcher said.

A third blade was left hanging straight down. The fire occurred in the turbine’s motor housing. The motor  housing was still smoking at 10:30 a.m.

The sheriff’s office and Garner Fire Department were at the scene.

No injuries were reported.

The turbine was in a field with several other turbines.

The turbines, part of an extensive wind farm in Hancock County, are owned by FPL Energy LLC of Juno Beach, Fla. They went into operation in 2002.

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TheCrawdad wrote on Oct 6, 2007 11:50 PM:

" Geez.....you guys will argue about anything. I honestly cannot see how anyone could say anything that could even be remotely negative about a firefighter! Thanks goodness we have these folks to watch over our homes and families! As far as I can tell the MCFD is very quick and well-organized, unlike most of the city's agencies. They deserve whatever funding we can give them. Maybe we could quit wasting money on wasteful federal bureaucracies like FEMA and Homeland Security and put the money where it belongs - on the local people that know best how to spend and utilize it like the Fire Department. "Freedom is free. Tyranny needs taxes." "

what-i-think wrote on Oct 6, 2007 9:03 PM:

" You know...I've read and re-read this story, and I can't seem to find anything about fire departments asking for equipment, high taxes, or, um, anything at ALL about the Manly police department. Seriously...why don't you focus on the issue at hand, instead of making your own issues? Granted, I realize North Iowa has quite a shortage of good news stories, but I don't think this is the way to handle it. "

NRA wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:55 AM:

" I'm sure the Manly police catch a lot of things on highways 65 and 9 and I don't object to the fact that they do that. I'm just questioning why they take it upon themselves to police state highways if having 3 fulltime officers with cars is too big of a burden for a city the size of Manly. I don't see the local cops sitting on the edge of Northwood, or St. Ansgar, or Osage, or Nora Springs or all the other small towns I drive through. If it's not cost effective, as in office's time equals fines collected, maybe it's something they should not be doing. Other towns manage and they have state highways going through them. "

LA wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:20 AM:

" I agree with s-curve! Where is the concern for the safety of wind turbine employees!! This article had nothing to do with what is going on with local fire departments. "

Firefighter Fred wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:42 AM:

" NRA speeders are not the only thing on hwys 9 & 65. they catch people without driving licenses, drug dealers, and drunk drivers. And if you would ask the state patrol if they feel they have enough man power to cover all the interstates, and other highways I bet they would say no, not enough. It's just the classical everybody wants law enforcement until it's directed at them. PS I don't like to fish. "

NRA wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:27 AM:

" ManlyMan, if the Manly police spent less time on highways #65 and #9 looking for speeders you could probably eliminate one fulltime cop with a car, and maybe reduce one more to halftime. Honestly, those are both state highways and the Highway Patrol is capable of tending to them. Manly police just do it for the revenue, which according to you isn't bringing in much anyway. Or maybe they don't have enough crime to keep them busy. Most towns the size of Manly do not have 3 fulltime police officers with cars. That seems excessive to me. "

letsfishnow wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:17 AM:

" Why don't you all quit arguing and discuss something else.You pretty much wore out this subject. "

Firefighter Fred wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:35 PM:

" been there.... I'm not Fred L. I still am engaged in fighting fires and providing emergency services to people in North Iowa. I have been for over 22 years now. Yes there have been a few homes that were totally destroyed by fire. But there also are some that are still standing today and have a family living in them. Like everything in life...you win some, you lose some. "

Firefighter Fred wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:26 PM:

" ManlyMan If you truly are as concerned about the spending in the police dept. as you seem, then you need to go to their city council meetings and voice your displeasure. Most of the people that read these blogs can not change what the Manly Police spend. Remember it is an election year, talk to the candidates. "

Firefighter Fred wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:21 PM:

" JB you bring up a valid point, what do the small towns do when no one will volunteer anymore? Two Choices. 1 close down the fire dept and just rebuild what burns down ( hope you don't plan on having insurance). 2. Hire full time firefighters. A minimum staffing of 4 x 3 shifts = 12. Maybe a chief to run the dept. How much is that? say the cost per firefighter would be $50,000 with insurance and other benefits. $600,000 per year plus whatever the Chief would cost. Now add the cost of modifying the stations to accommodate 24 hour shifts. Very costly. Maybe we need to try and keep the young people here. Do you think that overall the amount a person pays for fire protection compared to all of the other taxes (property, school and income)they probably are getting a good deal for their dollar? My house is worth 50,000 according to the tax man. So if I paid 40.5 cents per thousand dollars valuation then I'm paying $20.25.Thats cheap for 15-20 guys and all the equipment that they have to be one phone call away if I need them. "

ManlyMan wrote on Oct 4, 2007 5:16 PM:

" firefighter fred you raise a good point about police protection. If the city stopped all the police spending which at this point is out of control and paid Worth Co to Patrol this small bodunk town it would cost $110.000 a year. In Story City IA one cop patrols that CITY and the crime rate is very low.15years ago one cop took care of Manly and the last I checked we have'nt had a crimewave. The fact is since are last Police Cheif left the $ the Police Dept brings in has dropped from close to $2.500 a month to $450 a month and the spending has doubled its all puplic record. "

JB Johnson of Britt wrote on Oct 4, 2007 4:58 PM:

" From your name alone I can tell you have a bias opinion which is fine. If this was about the police or road crewman and patrolman Pete or snowplow Sam wrote in that is great. That what this space is for. Fire protection is a service and that service has to have a cost and reward balance sheet. At some point you can spend too little or spend to much. Agree? I agree that the FD is becoming more EMT service and less fire every day and we need to look at that and tailor our spending to that. We will tax $350,000 for a new pumper, but need to have a bake sale for a new ambulance. The Britt ambulance may go out several times a day, but the FD goes out a few times a month. In fact I showed a yearly listing of calls to the Britt FD to a fire captain of a St Louis engine Company. He laughed. What our FD does in a year is a slow day for him. They wear out tires on their big rigs in a matter of 8 months. We buy a new truck to get a lower insurance rate on our homeowner policy for people who live in town. It makes no difference to a rural policy the age of the fire truck. Sure the combines and RR engines are larger but we have a lot fewer of them running now while the number of acres has stayed the same or less. How many "new" farmers have you heard of. Fewer customers for your service again. What took all day for my grandfather pick my brother can do in a matter on minutes. And he used gas power as compared to diesel now for less of a fire hazard. And when it comes to RR we have fewer tracks {CNW gone} and fewer grain trains due to all the confinement buildings. When it comes to a cornfield fire I don’t care how many new trucks you have running back and forth to town hauling water, one guy with a disk will knock it down. If equipment was the answer why does forest fires burn for days till the weather helps out? Sure we have a huge tax base to buy all the equipment to fill fire stations to who laid the rail. But with the age of this state getting older and older every day Firemen Fred, and with the younger people leaving, where are we going to get your replacement? "

been there wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:21 PM:

" FF Fred L. you forgot to tell us about all the basements that you saved "

Firefighter Fred wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:19 AM:

" Ohhboy I have to respond to these posts. 1. JB so your not a fan of funding your local fire dept anymore then what you believe is a bare minimum? And then you like to make fun of them and tell jokes. Very professional...not. My guess is your a tightwad that values money over most other things. I understand that it is difficult to spend money on things that would help if needed, but you never will need the fire dept's help right. I hope you don't. But disasters can happen to anyone any time. Most fire depts and emergency type agencies want to be as prepared as possible, because when they are not guess who gets raked over the coals. I would expect that the fire dept's are reasonable in what they are asking for, I did not hear them asking for a helicopter (or other type of far out equipment) JB look back over the years, all things are getting bigger, train locomotives, tractors, combines, grain carts and trucks and the sheds that they park them in. It is only logical that fire trucks get bigger too. And with that come the need for more room in the fire station. Most departments have taken on additional duties from EMS response to specialized rescue and hazmat response. All of that takes equipment and more importantly time for training. These people that volunteer there time deserve more respect then what your giving them. As far as dirt does not burn, unless it is peat moss(but that is another story) no it does not burn but the crops that are grown on it burn, the equipment that tills the soil and harvest the crop can burn too. What would a 100 acre field of corn be worth today? What about the new combine that is out there in the field? How much is that worth? just some thoughts. And now for you ManlyMan.. why does a story about a windfarm fire in Hancock County have to do with the Manly Police Dept. If you are so upset then I hope that your name is on the ballot for City council or mayor. From what I heard the Police needed to replace the oldest car but would get nothing for it on trade or resale. I know I would not pay much for it (or any used police car). So they are keeping it to help keep miles and usage off of the other two until it it finally gives up. Which to me makes sense. As to why there are 3 officers? there are 24 hours per day / 3 officers = 8 hours per day per officer. That is every day. I think they work 12 hour shifts so they actually get days off. You days off from work don't you? I hope you do work if your able to. The people of Manly deserve 24 hour police protection don't you think? Or could we get everyone to agree to no crimes between midnight and 8am? I do agree with you on one thing. Money does need to be spent on infrastructure such as sewer and water. It's not a spectacular project because there is nothing to see when it is done but if it does not work then many people are not happy. As far as the casino.. It is helping. The fire station addition in Manly is being funded by grant money from the WCDA (95%) and donations raised by the firefighters. The only tax money was for a sewer line and drainage tile. A very small amount. There probably would not be a swimming pool being built if not for the funds coming in from the WCDA and casino. No the WCDA funds will never do away with your taxes but in Rural Worth County the tax rate was reduced due to income from the WCDA. So please try to be part of the solution and not someone sitting in the sideline that yells and screams. "

JB Johnson of Britt wrote on Oct 4, 2007 8:40 AM:

" The land does have a tax on it but so does your house or in this case windmills {improvements}. A same amount due to abatements. Do you not pay a tax on your house and the land? Keep in mind the number of farmsteads has dropped by a 1/3 in the last 30 years but our FD keep getting bigger. A building will burn but dirt does not. The cost of protection is almost the same for bare land as one with buildings. The formula needs to be reworked. What was fine 50 years is unfair now. The helicopter was a joke. It use to be we would say if anyone built anything over 30 feet tall the FD would want a ladder truck, but I replaced it with a helicopter. Whenever Eagle Lake would burn we would talk about getting a tanker like the forest dept has for timber fires out west. Now that would be cool seeing it swing low over Clear Lake to fill its tank, hopefully missing the fisherman and jetskis then doing a pass over the grass fire. Be a big hit for prades. Santa could jump from on Xmas. "

jsnmlk wrote on Oct 4, 2007 1:09 AM:

" What I am wondering is why buy a special fire truck for a incident that may never happen in the future??? Common sense and logic would tell a person that instrument is full of electronics and electricity. Last time I checked electricity and water dont mix. So when fighting fires like this create a perimeter put out ground fires and move along. Buying a new fire truck or helicopter (what a bonehead) is financially unfeasable. As far as fire department budgets, I am not sure on how they work, but I am guessing that with a little common sense and research most needs of department could be reached by using federal money, under the homeland security act. As far as the taxes on the property that the windmills are built on. Last I heard, the farmers who owned the land were paid rent for the land, which would place the taxes squarely on the farmer. "

s-curve wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:57 PM:

" How did this conversation turn into a debate over the fire department? You guys are morons. "

ManlyMan wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:32 PM:

" I don't blame the fire dept or in Manly's case the Police dept I mean if the dumb%#@'s on the council will approve a new undercover cop car that cost the city close to $40.000 after all its upgrades then why not max out the cities spending. J.B I don't understand why a Town the size of Manly has 3 cops and 3 cop cars and why knowone but me thinks its a little much. I can't wait for the day they relize they can't afford any cops or cars or a new sewer main all because they thought the Casino would bail them out. "

Keith wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:11 PM:

" Anyone with a lick of good sense knows helicopters are not suitable for this type of fire...suggesting a fire department would want one as a result of this incident is asinine. "

RJ wrote on Oct 3, 2007 9:33 PM:

" If a windmill burns does Al Gore cry? "

Registration Required wrote on Oct 3, 2007 8:31 PM:

" I really have never defended JB before...so here goes. Township Tax Levies for fire departmetns are so low, it would take you eons to make enough money from them to buy a decent truck, let alone a helicopter. I believe the going rate is 60 3/4 cents per thousand. And, for a rural grass fire, are you going to want the best truck or the truck that holds the most water? USUALLY the two are not the same truck. Anyway, no one is making a killing on the township tax levy for fire protection. "

farmboy wrote on Oct 3, 2007 8:10 PM:

" CL, you have to be sick as you never wish a fire on anyone. when i lived in clear lake we had a house fire and i can't say enough for the cl fire dept. they are the greatest people around. so you are sick sona---- . so keep your throughts to your self. "

JB Johnson of Britt wrote on Oct 3, 2007 8:03 PM:

" One other thing, those windmills pay very little in property taxes because of abatements. So if we did go out and buy a helicopter to provide protection it would cost them very little at all "

JB Johnson of Britt wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:54 PM:

" As someone who works on the fire dept budget I do know what it cost Kanawha bought a fire truck that will pump water over the top of the grain silo in Kanawha, for about a minute then is out of water. Britt rural bought a water truck for about $117,000 and just about gave the old one{5,000 miles} to Crystal Lake. Crystal Lake was thrilled and we raised our taxes. Townships in Kanawha are at the max levy because they built a new building. They better hope they don't need funds because they are maxed out. Erin township taxes for fire have gone from 6500 to over 10 grand in 4 years. Call me I'll be glad to mail you copies of reports. So see I can joke about wanting a helicopter "

been there wrote on Oct 3, 2007 5:33 PM:

" ya JB after all at most fires they go to they save the basement!! "

wrote wrote on Oct 3, 2007 4:03 PM:

" JB you are so rude "

buffy704 wrote on Oct 3, 2007 3:46 PM:

" The bad attitude that people have about fire departments ---sometimes I wonder why the firemen even try. But then we all know the answer--they are commited to saving lives and homes etc. Don't bad mouth your fire department--thinkof all the times when it is below zero in the winter and the fire department is out fighting a fire andyou are home in your warm beds. "

LA wrote on Oct 3, 2007 1:56 PM:

" From what i can tell u both seem to have the wrong concerns! As a wife of a turbine employee the safety of the employees comes to my mind. Doubt very much that the fire departments are worried about bigger trucks or a helicopter. Thank God no one was injured or worse killed. There have been other injuries and fatalities recently in other states. I pray everyday that my husband comes home safely to our family. "

clearlaker wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:09 PM:

" JB JOHNSON WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT FIGHTING FIRES???? MAYBE YOU SURE HOP INTO THAT SEAT AND SEE WHAT THEY DO TO SAVE LIVES. MAYBE YOUR HOUSE SHOULD CATCH ON FIRE AND WE WILL SET BACK AND WATCH SINCE YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY TO HELP YOUR DEPARTMENT!!! "

JB Johnson of Britt wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:29 AM:

" Oh man, now the fire dept will want a bigger truck or a helicopter "

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